At the end of January, many of us felt a mixture of anguish and admiration for the efforts made by Urubko and Bielecki to try to get Revol and Mackiewicz out alive from Nanga Parbat. This great show of humanity serves as a starting point to kick off a conversation with Jornet in which we have left aside more familiar aspects to delve into his mountain philosophy from a mountaineering point of view...